Wednesday, March 08, 2006

'dimensions' of happiness

Robert Frost claims that "happiness makes up in height what it lacks in length." Elisheva and I agree. Emotional rollercoaster. Mission now is to stay on the ride as long as you can. Oh, and not to get nauseous either.

18 comments:

elisheva said...

Intensity is better than frequency. You are correct, i do agree. Aizeh Elisheva is being referred to...is it moi?

Anonymous said...

quality over quantity?

wandering said...

true happiness is not something that comes and goes- dependent on outside influences. true happiness comes from within you and can therefore last forever. the happiness you seem to be referring to is NOT quality OR quantity.

mom said...

wandering- very well said ( gut gezokt)

Nemo said...

So I went to the barber today, not something which I do often.

Halfway through he asks if I want him to use the razor on my neck. That story came to mind immediately and I was petrified. Needless to say, I passed on the offer.

While we're on the topic, it's interesting that it is a Halachah that you cannot trust a goy to give you a haircut, because they are holding knife behind your head and you cannot see them. We're suspicious that they might try to kill us... Spooky

sapar said...

nemo- that was funny (sorry but i really was laughing)
which reminds me, while we're on the topic ,that i used to be a barber and one time i cut off the guys ear(by mistake) and i said i was sorry, but i dont think he heard me....

wandering said...

YAY!! Mom is on my side... haha chava we are gonna gang up against you.... and puuuuhhhleaaase call me again!

JB said...

I agree with Wanderings first post all the way... Dunno what theyre talking about in the second one though ;).

elisheva said...

While going through birthday cards, i stumbled on one white print against a black background:

Nothing Ages Like Happiness

Maybe im cruel and cynical, maybe i have never experienced what your talking about...but true happiness does not "last forever". There is nothing, absolutely nothing, wrong with outside influences being a determining factor. Why have you never invinted me into this Utopia of yours?

wandering said...

elisheva,
I cant honestly say that I fully experience this utopia and i must agree that there is nothing really wrong with these 'highs' of happiness that we experience from outside factors... however:
There are certain things in life that bring a true happiness that is eternal-
ex:giving birth to a child. No matter what happens, even if the child suffers or causes you suffering or even g-d forbid dies, you forever have with you the knowledge that you brought life into this world. That joy is not dependent on where that child ends up, it is something that stays forever.

Nemo said...

Most of the time at least, some people terribly regret parenting children- accidents, etc.

Anonymous said...

perhaps the happiness 'wandering 'is refering to is contentment.

JB said...

The point wandering is trying to make, is that there are things that cause eternal happiness. Things that, when looked back on, will always make you smile. Always fill you with a warm fuzzy feeling. No matter what happens afterwards, those memories will not be tainted.

Hasn't anyone out there ever been truly happy???

the sabra said...

elisheva-i didnt say its BETTER, its just fact of life. and no, im talking about my shotafah.

anon-what are u asking?

wandering-yes, happiness must come from within, otherwise it is a flaky joy which will melt when the temperature changes. however, it is tough to ALWAYS be happy. you can experience a true happiness that comes from an inner contentment and satisfaction, and though it is true, it might not last after an hour/day/semester/year...
i disagree that you say its lacking quality and quantity.

mom-you see, i do have SOME good friends!

nemo-hehe! oh and interesting about the halachah. never heard of it. (something tells me u commented by the wrong post. but hey, who am i to tell you where and when to comment, eh?)

sapar-musta been in chutz laaretz. here in israel it would never happen. barbers (and every native born and non sabra included) yell so loud that its possible to hear with just one ear. and, he would never apologize either. my conclusion-it happend in chul.

wandering-leave the violence OFF my site, thank you. and i wanted to call you but lack of funds, sleep and phone prevented it. tis never too late though.

jb-if you dont understand every one of her posts, then you dont truly understand even one ;)

elisheva-bec something that comes and GOES cannot be real. what is truth? something that is eternal. the torah is called torat chayim. it is eternal. the same way a love that is dependant on something (ahavah sh'taloy b'davar) is not what we are striving for. if the root is not firmly planted deep inside, a small wind will just knock it over.
you will never be happy if it depends on something from the outside, bec u will never be satisfied and happy-you will always want more.
"who is happy? one who is happy with his lot"

wandering-well said but though the love is not dependant on outside influence, the happiness is. (see above quote as to what is happiness)

nemo-in a healthy case, i disagree. and if we are gonna bring in 'freak' situations then..

anon-probably

jb-its not just things that we look back at. again, that would be something that is dependant on something else. being truly happy is being satisfied and CONTENT (there u go, anonymous) with what one has.

JB said...

My thoughts exactly :). Just wrote it wrong I guess... Not so good at this whole philosophical blogging (Philoblogging? I think I just made up a good word :)) thing yet...

the sabra said...

ha u wish-philiblogging is a real word. and theres even a course u can take at some of the universities here called 'blogosophy'.
nice try though :)

JB said...

LOL :)

Maftanama said...

"They said 'Cheer up - things could be worse.' So I cheered up...and sure enough, things got worse."
for all those ppl that need some sunshine on their vaction (pick me, pick me)